DOSE: T+ 0:00	25 - 35 mg	oral	2C-B	(powder / crystals)
T+ 0:45	25 - 50 mg	insufflated	2-Fluorodeschloroketamine	(powder / crystals)
T+ 3:00	4 - 6 mg	oral	3-HO-PCP	(liquid)

BODY WEIGHT:

250 lb

Getting More Out of 2C-B

I have been utilizing serotonergic psychedelics and dissociative anesthetics to enhance my experiences at live music events for years now. I believe I have stumbled upon a very particular combination of substances that reliably results in a fun, emotionally light, dancey time with no discernable next-day hangover (for myself and a few friends at least).

The protocol is as follows:

0:00 25 - 35mg, oral, 2C-B
+0:45 25 - 50mg, insufflated, 2fdck
+3:00 4 - 6mg, oral, 3HO-PCP

I personally love 2C-B. After about 45 minutes to an hour, I generally experience significant visuals (e.g. trails, enhanced colors, surfaces melting or breathing) along with very pleasant somatic sensations. I often describe this sensation as being 'fluid' or 'wet' and it always comes with a feeling of being settled or at peace. Best of all, for my purposes, 2C-B enhances my connection with the music and makes it much more fun to dance. Another major advantage of 2C-B, for the purposes of raving, is that I have never experienced unexpected intense emotions or sticky thought loops while on 2C-B. The headspace of 2C-B is notoriously clear and I have even been able to easily hold space for other people's intense emotional processes while I was on 2C-B. This cannot be said, for me at least, of nearly any other psychedelic I've tried.

A 50mg line of 2fdck is added right as the 2C-B sets in. This, for reasons I don't fully understand, consistently amplifies the intensity of the psychedelic experience on the 2C-B. I can take 25mg of 2C-B, and with the additive of a dissociative anesthetic at the right time, I consistently trip like I took 35mg of 2C-B (maybe a 2x increase in intensity). Ketamine, DCK, MXE, can all be substituted with 2fdck if their relative dosages are adjusted for. The most advantageous time for me to take the dissociative appears to be just as I am about to 'come-up', but it can be added later in the trip and still amplify the psychedelic effect.

This trick appears to work with any serotonergic psychedelic and any dissociative anesthetic (e.g. psilocybin and ketamine, LSD and MXE, 2C-B and DCK). I haven't tried anywhere close to all the combinations, but so far that rule has held steady - dissociatives synergize with psychedelics. Someone somewhere should really do some scientific research on whether this holds true for everyone and the mechanism of action behind this phenomenon.

One of the great upsides and downsides of 2C-B for me is that it only lasts about 4 hours from when I ingest it. As the visuals and somatic sensations subside, I am often left with a very comfortable feeling in my body. Instead of feeling like I've danced for hours, my body feels rested and not sore - as though I'd taken a perfectly dosed cannabis edible. This body feeling only lasts for about 1 or 2 hours after the trip usually.

However, this is where the 3HO-PCP comes in. I have found that, if I consume the right amount of 3HOPCP just as the visual aspects of the 2C-B are about to subside (about 3 to 3.5 hours after ingesting), I can 'lock in' some of the 2C-B visuals and all of that comfortable body feel for another 4 to 6 hours. These visuals are usually much less intense for me than when on the 2C-B proper. Usually I'll only notice them if I focus on a specific point (kind of like a low dose LSD experience).

I am intending to remain vertical and even continue to dance, so I have to be careful with dosing. 3HO-PCP is a very potent dissociative - to the point where it has to be volumetrically dosed. I have personally found that 5 or 6mg is perfect for this protocol, and that even 8mg is too much (i.e. I'll end up having to lay down).

There is some flexibility in when to take the 3HO-PCP. The earlier in the 2C-B trip I take it, the more of the 2C-B visuals will get locked in for a longer time. However, if I take the 3HO too early (e.g. +2:00), it will combine with the 2fdck and I'll end up on the floor. If I take the 3HO too late (e.g. +4:00), I can still enjoy the 3HO-PCP but I won't keep any of the 2C-B effects going.

I sincerely hope that this discovery informs further exploration and study. Stay safe out there.

Exp Year: 2023	ExpID: 117122
Gender: Male
Age at time of experience: 30
Published: Nov 11, 2024	Views: 15
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